Frank Kirkman's Mountain Meadows Massacre Site
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From Lucas Visser-Nieland Sun Dec 30 02:32:37 2007
How quickly we forget.
There never is any justification, right or wrong, to take the lives of innocent people. There are two sides to every coin and it is sad to see that in most cases only one side is shown and talked or written about. I do not have any intimate details about the massacre to take sides, however, one needs to see what was done to Mormons as well.  That is not a valid reason to react by using an "eye for an eye" approach.
Christians, as they called themselves as members of the Catholic church or the brake-away Protestants, all using the vile Roman cross as their sign of "true worship", following the dictates formulated on demand by pagan Roman emperor Constantine in 325 in Nicaea, which resulted in the Nicene creed -a formal statement of Christian beliefs, subsequently altered and expanded, and still in use in most Christian  churches.
Christian history in Europe and the Americas is saturated with the  most horrific deeds committed in the name of Jesus Christ - the crusades, Maria de Medici's orders to murder thousand of innocent Protestants in France , Popes going on rampages in Europe , Catholic Priests blessing the deeds of Conquistadors to murder millions of Aztecs and Mayans and to take their gold to ship it to Spain and Rome . The list goes on and the cross was the symbol to fortify their deeds.  Forget the slaughter of Jews? That did not start in 1933, it started way before in the 11th century all over Europe , with a pope to be the first to create a ghetto near the Tiber river in Rome .
It is so easy to see the bad, the Bible has a lot to say about that, and forget the good. Didn't the Savior teach the crowd that was about  to stone someone to death to look at themselves first and anyone to be without fault to throw the first stone? Didn't He also say something about the splinter in one's eye and to look at the beam in one's own?
What so-called Christians hate is the truth. They are no more Christian than pagan Rome, with ideas and creeds concocted by fuming church fathers fighting for control until Constantine stepped in. But he was a mother and sons murderer himself - WHAT A GREAT EXAMPLE HE WAS!
The best thing to do is to honor the dead, forgive as we are required by the Savior to do, and let Him sort it all out when He comes again.  Are we not to spread the Word through love? What are we doing by spreading hate from the pulpit and the internet? Are we not to be held accountable for our deeds and words?
If you want to change the world, start with yourself.
Lucas Visser-Nieland oranje40@comcast.net

From: Kammy Smith
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 8:44:48 AM
This site has been very unnerving to me and I'm appalled by it's anti-mormonism stance.  How many time must a group of people apologize for the heiretic dicisions of a small group of people?  It's not the fact that they are mormons it's the fact that they did something very stupid and in fear.  The "2nd" 9/11 showed us as americans what one irrational leader can do for his cause.  Not every Muslim but merely a handful of extreemist did this do us as Americans.  Just like a small band of extreemist did this attrocity to the victims of the Mountain Meadow Massacre.  It doesn't mean that all Mormons much like any religious groups is out for blood.  It means there are "IDIOTS" in this imperfect world and they make poor choices that often cause the loss of many lives.  I'm sorry for what has happened and I wish it could be changed but that is not possible.  The important thing here is to not "lump" the entire group together when there is one bad apple in the bunch, weed out the rotten one and toss it in the slop bucket.  Don't dwell on it and make you just as rotten as them.  Use this important and vital information to open your eyes and see what you can do to prevent it.  Be a more understanding, loving, and tolerant individual to help prevent the extreemist action. Can we all just get along??????
Kammy Smith <kammysmith@gmail.com>

   

 
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